Added: Nov 22, 2008

From: aaron0883

Duration: 9:44

Who owns a child?

Channel: Education

Tags: anarchist  anarchocapitalism  anarchy  children  individualism  libertarian  ownership  property  rights  self  youth 


Rating: 4.86 (14 ratings)    Views: 304' favoriteCount='3    Comments: 25

RowanFortuneWood Says:

Nov 22, 2008 - Another fascinating video. I think I might do a vlog on this whole idea of child liberation sometime. Keep up the great vids.

aaron0883 Says:

Nov 22, 2008 - From my perspective. It would be the same as if a 32 year old person who is very intellectually slow accidentally burning down the house. It doesn't negate his self-ownership. It is a crumby situation, and I am not fully sure what the solution is ... i am sure I can come up with a bunch of possibilities, but I am mostly trying to establish a principal.

DixyHair Says:

Nov 22, 2008 - I see. Now, what do you think of indoctrinating children with religious & political beliefs?

BWF89 Says:

Nov 22, 2008 - In a free market anarchist society the private defense agencies (PDAs) or neutral arbitrators would ultimately decide what the "mix" was. If the child thought he was being mistreated he could take his case to an arbitrator. The PDAs would probably not want the reputation for protecting abusive parents. They could try to get the parents to give up the child by threatening to not provide protective services and "black listing" them so other PDAs wouldn't want to provide them with protection.

aaron0883 Says:

Nov 22, 2008 - If PDAs(or DROs) decide what the mix is than the PDA owns the child. This is just a new government. I am a huge advocate of the DRO system, but emphatically reject that they have a say in this at all.

XOmniverse Says:

Nov 22, 2008 - By that logic, the parents should be obligated to take care of the child throughout its entire life even in adulthood. After all, the parents "created the situation."

irishguy20007 Says:

Nov 22, 2008 - No I am on about kids who run amok and burn other peoples houses. I know an area where 40% of the houses were burned by young kids out of control.They parents blame the child and the child says he is too young and not responsible

irishguy20007 Says:

Nov 22, 2008 - No No I am on about kids who are fully aware of what they are doing burning other people out.Burning cars etc.Their parents laugh and say it's not their fault and the kids say they cannot be brought to justice.

irishguy20007 Says:

Nov 22, 2008 - I knew two guys well many years ago and they broke up someone's boat with rocks.They went home and one of the fathers found out and paid out and put him to work until he paid it off. This is responsibility.

irishguy20007 Says:

Nov 22, 2008 - The parents are 100% responsible for their children within reason. If a child murders then he must be placed into care. Parents have to take some responsibility for lesser crimes.

irishguy20007 Says:

Nov 22, 2008 - It was a different story years ago let me tell you. Kids respected elderly people and for good reason because they feared the consequences.

irishguy20007 Says:

Nov 22, 2008 - The problem here in Ireland is there are too many social workers drawing huge salary's and they more unrest in society the more money they make. It;s a system and it's lining lawyers and social workers pockets.

FistsoFuckinFreedom Says:

Nov 22, 2008 - Well, until the child can reasonably take care of itself.

objectivist Says:

Nov 22, 2008 - Societies based on fear won't last very long.

BrianTheMusicMan Says:

Nov 22, 2008 - I don't remember anything about being 11 years old.

thexjib Says:

Nov 22, 2008 - I think you make a good case that a child should not be the slave of their parents or society. But I think you are going on a wild and incoherent tangent."a child owns his own life" does not imply that they should have total freedom without input or discipline. As much as a parent limits a child's freedom so a child limits the liberty of a parent. The rules are different because a child is a dependant.

aaron0883 Says:

Nov 22, 2008 - I do not think I fully understand you, but we might agree. I would love to hear your input on the rest of my videos. I will expand on what I believe the child parent relationship should be. I believe that a parent should set boundaries (in a non-coercive, and empathetic sense) and has great input in a child's life.

thexjib Says:

Nov 22, 2008 - sorry I was making leaps (about what you said) and responding to things you did not even say... looking forward to the next video.

5ys Says:

Nov 22, 2008 - Very very good video.

jcastillo81 Says:

Nov 22, 2008 - Aren't all societies that have a government based on fear? Governments exist because people are afraid of what their neighbor might do.

objectivist Says:

Nov 22, 2008 - Governments exist traditional to protect individual rights and private property. But a quick look at history shows us that they don't do a very good job of it, and eventually destroy the people they were once meant to protect.Individuals who are well armed could do a better job of protecting property than any government could.

jcastillo81 Says:

Nov 22, 2008 - Yes, I was agreeing with you. :) Governments exist based on fear and coercion, thus, they fail.

Shezmu Says:

Nov 22, 2008 - except they'd have to decide for sake of figuring out who's responsible in civil cases. Otherwise, how would they calculate fault?

Shezmu Says:

Nov 22, 2008 - Or what they could just put the damages on the kid's "tab". Kinda like what the government does now, except minus the minus the guns of course. =P

Shezmu Says:

Nov 22, 2008 - Perhaps I'm up over-complicating things, but from a scientific standpoint I have trouble understanding why mother doesn't own the child at birth since the child is 100 percent made up of the mother's cells and doesn't get his/her cells until several years afterwards. Also, not to call you sexist, but I notice how when describing child property rights, you said his and not his/her/s. :9